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Oct 11, 2022

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.


With the RIMS ERM Conference 2022 fast approaching on November 10th‒11th in Indianapolis, IN, Justin is once again joined by a fantastic guest that will be a presenter at the event — Jana Utter!


Jana Utter has made an appearance before on RIMScast in 2019 in an episode titled, “All Things ERM with SERMC Chair Jana Utter.” Jana served as the Vice Chair of the Strategic and Enterprise Risk Management Council from 2018‒2019, the Chair from 2020‒2021, and is now a member of the Annual Conference Planning Committee. For the last seven years, she has held the position of Vice President of Enterprise Risk Management at Centene Corporation, where she is responsible for Centene’s enterprise risk management program and the use of scenario- and metrics-based analysis to determine potential financial impacts.


In this episode, Jana will be sharing a preview of her session at the RIMS ERM Conference titled, “The Latest, Greatest, and Future of ERM in an ESG World and the Risk of Inaccurate Reporting.” She also speaks about what it was like to create the first Sustainability Accounting Standards Board index; her efforts in bringing the discussion of ESG to the mainstream; and many other high-level talking points on ESG, ERM, TCFD, GRC, and more!


Key Takeaways:

[:01] About the RIMS Membership.

[:14] About today’s episode and how to save $400 on the Pre-Conference Workshop for RIMS-CRMP Prep!

[:41] About RIMScast.

[1:00] More about today’s episode with Jana Utter!

[2:05] Upcoming RIMS webinars, workshops, events, and more!

[3:05] Justin welcomes Jana Utter back to the podcast.

[3:20] Jana shares her career background and current role at Centene.

[6:03] How Jana’s role at Centene has evolved over the years.

[7:10] What GRC is.

[7:42] Justin congratulates Jana on her accomplishment of making the RIMS Risk Management, Risk Manager of the Year, Honor Roll during this year’s RIMS RISKWORLD.

[8:00] Jana shares how she felt making the RIMS Risk Management Honor Roll.

[9:47] As detailed in Jana’s Risk Management Magazine profile, she is clearly ahead of the curve when it comes to ESG. What was it like for Jana to create the first Sustainability Accounting Standards Board index?

[12:40] All about TCFD and how it is related to ERM.

[16:40] RIMS plug time! All about upcoming awards and nominations, virtual workshops, and more!

[18:24] Jana and other risk managers alike have helped bring the discussion of ESG to the mainstream. Jana elaborates on why this is helping the practice of ERM.

[21:36] Is Jana finding that the next wave of risk professionals is more drawn toward ERM as opposed to traditional risk management?

[23:12] Why Jana is so excited for the RIMS ERM Conference 2022 to be in Indianapolis, IN.

[24:16] Jana gives a preview of her session at the upcoming RIMS ERM Conference 2022!

[25:53] Justin congratulates Jana once again for making the Honor Roll and shares some of the links to check in today’s show notes!


Mentioned in this Episode:

RIMS Events, Education, and Services:

RIMS ERM Conference 2022 — November 10‒11, 2022 | Indianapolis, IN — Agenda Now Live!

Save $400 on the Pre-Conference Workshop: RIMS-CRMP Prep

Attend the in-person RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep Workshop, November 89. Register for the ERM Conference and select the workshop on the “Additional Purchase Options” page. Your $400 savings will already be applied. Learn more!

The RIMS Strategic & Enterprise Risk Center

RIMS Risk Maturity Model

Risk Management Magazine: Risk Manager of the Year Awards 2022

In-Person Events:

RIMS Events App Apple | Google Play


RIMS Buyers Guide

Contribute to RIMS Risk Management magazine

Dan Kugler Risk Manager on Campus Grant

Sponsor RIMScast: Contact or for more information.

Virtual Workshops:

Contractual Risk Transfer Canada — Oct. 19‒20 | 12:00 pm‒6:00 pm EST | Registration Closes Oct. 18th — Register Now!

Applying and Integrating ERM — Dec 6‒7 | 9:00 am‒3:00 pm EST Registration Closes Dec 5th — Register Now!

See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops

Upcoming RIMS Webinars:

“Beware of Artificial Intelligence” | Sponsored by Nationwide | Oct. 11, 2022

“Understanding Bank-Fronted Surety Bonds” | Sponsored by Travelers | Oct. 13, 2022

“From Chaos to Clarity: GRC Trends for 2023” | Sponsored by Resolver | Oct. 20, 2022

Related RIMScast Episodes:

“All Things ERM with SERMC Chair Jana Utter”

“Strategizing with Mark A. Pfister, RIMS ERM Conference Keynote 2022”

“ERM and Employment Trends with Terry Lampropoulos”

“Rethinking the Impact of Disruption on ERM Tools and Processes with Ward Ching and Dr. Paul Walker”

“Responsible Raw Materials, Mining, and ESG with Sarah Gordon of Satarla”

“Path to the Boardroom: Resolver CEO Will Anderson’s Journey

“ESG and the Board with Luke Jacobs of Encamp”

Sponsored RIMScast Episodes:

“Aon’s 2022 Atlantic Hurricane Season Overview” (NEW)

“ESG Through the Risk Lens” | Sponsored by Riskonnect

“A Look at the Cyber Insurance Market” | Sponsored by AXA XL

“How to Reduce Lithium-Ion Battery Fire Risks” | Sponsored by TÜV SÜD

“Managing Global Geopolitical Risk in 2022 and Beyond” | Sponsored by AXA XL

Keeping Subcontractors Safe Through Partner Elevation” | Sponsored by Highwire

“ESG: A Responsibility and a Growing Megatrend” | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers Ltd.

“Focusing on Your Team to Deliver Exceptional Quality and Service to Your Clients”

| Sponsored by Gallagher Bassett

“Bermuda Opportunities in 2022 with BDA Chair Stephen Weinstein” | Sponsored by Bermuda Business Development Agency

“SyncR: A Tool to Enhance Your Risk Quality & Insurance Strategy” | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers Ltd.

“Navigating the Risk Landscape in 2022” | Sponsored by AXA XL

“Prioritizing People: Expertise and Innovation” | Sponsored by Gallagher Bassett

“Risk Findings for the Industrial & Manufacturing Industry” | Sponsored by Aon

“Establishing the Right Assurance to Request From Business Partners” | Sponsored by HITRUST

“Aon’s 2021 Retail Industry Overview” | Sponsored by Aon

“A Legacy of Resilience” | Sponsored by J.B. Boda Group

“The Golden Era of Insurance” | Sponsored by The Hartford

“Insurance Investigation Trends Happening Now” | Sponsored by Travelers

“What Could a CRO Do for Your Business?” | Sponsored by Riskonnect

“Hard Reality: A Look at Rising Rates in Property & Excess Casualty” | Sponsored by AXA XL

“Property Valuation Deep Dive” | Sponsored by TÜV SÜD

“Property Loss Control Engineering” | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers

RIMS Publications, Content, and Links:

RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community!

RIMS Virtual Workshops

Upcoming RIMS Webinars

On-Demand Webinars

RIMS Advisory Services — Ask a Peer

Risk Management Magazine

Risk Management Monitor

RIMS Coronavirus Information Center

RIMS Risk Leaders Series

RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP)

RIMS-CRMP Stories — New interview featuring RIMS-CRMP Chairman Ward Ching!

Spencer Educational Foundation

RIMS DEI Council

RIMS Path to the Boardroom


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Tweetables (For Social Media Use):


“I truly feel honored. Especially after going through the process of being selected for the [RIMS] Risk Manager Honor Roll.” Jana Utter


“[TCFD] is the task force on climate-related financial disclosures. … It’s a set of guidelines for completing a TCFD. … Part of the TCFD reporting involves a climate risk assessment.” Jana Utter


“I have found that ERM is continually evolving and that to me is what makes it exciting.” Jana Utter