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Jan 24, 2023

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.


Joining RIMScast today are three RIMS Chapter Presidents from around the world: Kerry Bakkerus of the RIMS New Zealand and Pacific Island Chapter, Erica Kiefer of the newly founded RIMS Greater Bluegrass Chapter, and Mako Kanda of the Japan Chapter. They discuss risk trends in their respective geographies, what makes their chapter unique, and their experiences with leading a chapter (and all of the challenges and opportunities that come along with it).


Tune in to hear various global perspectives from RIMS Chapter leaders and learn about what it takes to build and sustain their chapters, retain and attract membership, and their invaluable advice to the general risk management community.


Key Takeaways:

[:01] About the RIMS Membership.

[:14] Registration for RISKWORLD 2023 is now open!

[:34] About RIMScast.

[:45] About today’s episode.

[:52] All about upcoming RIMS webinars, workshops, events, and more!

[1:47] More about today’s episode with Kerry Bakkerus of the RIMS New Zealand and Pacific Island Chapter, Erica Kiefer of the newly founded RIMS Greater Bluegrass Chapter, and Mako Kanda of the Japan Chapter.

[2:09] Justin Smulison introduces and welcomes today’s first guest, Kerry Bakkerus!

[2:30] Kerry shares about her risk career and what she is doing outside of RIMS.

[3:20] What is the risk culture like in New Zealand?

[5:42] When did Kerry start the New Zealand RIMS Chapter?

[6:08] Kerry describes the NZ Chapter and the common goals of the members.

[8:23] Kerry’s message to the global risk management community and those considering a career in risk management.

[10:44] Justin thanks Kerry for joining the podcast!

[10:56] RIMS plug time! Upcoming RIMS virtual workshops and announcements.

[12:12] Justin introduces the second guest, Erica Kiefer, the newest RIMS Chapter President.

[13:00] Erica shares her career history.

[13:48] What drew Erica to risk management? How long has she been in risk management?

[15:31] Erica’s advice on what risk professionals need to do to maintain their good status and adapt to the times.

[16:40] Erica shares about the experience of co-launching the RIMS Greater Bluegrass Chapter.

[18:12] Erica’s hopes for the Greater Bluegrass chapter moving forward.

[19:00] Justin thanks Erica for joining the podcast and Erica shares where to find more information on the Greater Bluegrass chapter.

[19:32] Justin introduces the RIMS Japan chapter president, Mako Kanda.

[19:44] Mako discusses teaching strategy and risk as a university professor in Japan.

[21:36] Japan has a very risk-averse culture in business. How does Mako hope to slowly influence this mindset in the present and future?

[23:53] Mako shares some of the history of the RIMS Japan Chapter, as well as his hopes for the future of the chapter.

[25:55] Justin thanks Mako Kanda for joining!

[26:05] Justin thanks all three guests for joining the podcast and shares some links to take a look at in today’s show notes.


Mentioned in this Episode:

RISKWORLD 2023 — April 30‒May 3 in Atlanta, Georgia! Public registration is now open! Register early by Feb. 17th!

Contribute to Risk Management Magazine

RIMS Welcomes 80th Chapter — Greater Bluegrass Chapter

RIMS Events, Education, and Services:

RIMS Risk Maturity Model®

RIMS Events App Apple | Google Play


RIMS Buyers Guide

Dan Kugler Risk Manager on Campus Grant

Sponsor RIMScast: Contact or for more information.

Related RIMScast Episodes:

“2022: The Year in Risk (Part 1)” and “2022: The Year in Risk (Part 2)” 

“Live from the RIMS ERM Conference 2022”

“Travel Risk Management for the 2022 Holidays with Dr. Adrian Hyzler”

“2022 Midyear Risk Review with RIMS Publications Director Morgan O’Rourke”

“Introducing RIMS CEO Gary LaBranche”

Upcoming Webinars:

“What to Expect from Cyber Insurance in 2023 and Beyond” | Sponsored by Telos | Jan. 24, 2023

“Demystifying Business Continuity for Risk Managers” | Sponsored by Riskonnect | Feb. 16, 2023

The Perfect Storm: Property Risk Strategies & The Right Solutions for You” | Sponsored by Gallagher CORE360 Insights | Feb. 23, 2023

Virtual Workshops:

Fundamentals of Insurance | January 25‒26, 2023 | 9:00 am‒4:30 pm ET

Registration closes Jan. 24

Fundamentals of Risk Management | February 14‒15, 2023 | 9:00 am‒3:00 pm ET

Registration Closes Feb. 13

See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops

Sponsored RIMScast Episodes:

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“Zurich’s Construction Sustainability Outlook for 2023”

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“ESG Through the Risk Lens” | Sponsored by Riskonnect

“A Look at the Cyber Insurance Market” | Sponsored by AXA XL

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RIMS Publications, Content, and Links:

RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community!

RIMS Virtual Workshops

Upcoming RIMS — Virtual Workshops

RIMS Webinars

On-Demand Webinars

RIMS Advisory Services — Ask a Peer

Risk Management Magazine

Risk Management Monitor

RIMS Risk Leaders Series

RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP)

RIMS-CRMP Stories — New interview featuring Dr. Karen Hardy of Flip This Risk!

Spencer Educational Foundation

RIMS DEI Council

RIMS Path to the Boardroom


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Follow up with Our Guests:

Kerry Bakkerus’s LinkedIn

RIMS New Zealand and Pacific Islands Chapter

RIMS Greater Bluegrass Chapter
Greater Bluegrass Chapter of RIMS on LinkedIn

RIMS in Japan


Tweetables (For Social Media Use):


“Risk is quite a difficult conversation to get on the agenda. So what I try to do is really try to change the conversation not to, ‘What is risk?’ but to ‘How do you ensure that you achieve your objects? And what’s standing in the way of doing that?’” — Kerry Bakkerus


“I think risk is really such an exciting profession. It’s one that really adds strategic value to the organization.” — Kerry Bakkerus


“Risk management is … always changing. It’s not something you can just take a course [for] and, ‘know how to do.’ … It’s important to stay connected with people through organizations, …  reevaluating the risk … and seeing … new products … [and] trends.” — Erica Kiefer


“In Japan, risk is thought to be … [something] to avoid. But if you are a good strategist, you have to think beforehand which barrier is more difficult. … We have to think more proactively … and what is the best way to overcome, compared to the competitors.” — Mako Kanda