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Nov 22, 2022

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.


Today’s episode features live, in-person interviews from the 2022 RIMS ERM Conference that was held November 10th and 11th in Indianapolis, IN! Joining Justin are special guests, Merline Barrington, the ERM Manager for The Port Authority of NY & NJ; Jennifer Brown, the Executive Director for Integrated Risk and Strategy at Indiana Farm Bureau Insurance; and Mark Pfister, the CEO and Chief Board Consultant of M.A. Pfister Strategy Group and this year’s RIMS ERM Conference keynote speaker.


All three guests share about their careers, their experience at the conference, and their insights on ERM. Tune in and join the 275 professionals from around the world that were in attendance for the 2022 RIMS ERM Conference!


Key Takeaways:

[:01] About the RIMS Membership.

[:14] Registration for RISKWORLD 2023 is now open!

[:30] About RIMScast.

[:42] About today’s episode!

[:50] All about upcoming RIMS webinars, workshops, events, and more!

[2:00] More about today’s special episode.

[2:25] Justin introduces his first guest of the podcast; Merline Barrington.

[3:03] What Merline loves about ERM and the RIMS ERM Conference.

[3:36] About Merline’s work at The Port Authority of NY and NJ.

[4:45] How many years has Merline been in risk management?

[5:07] As a RIMS-CRMP holder, Merline shares about her experience studying for the exam.

[6:16] Justin thanks Merline for joining the podcast!

[6:29] Justin introduces his next guest; Jennifer Brown.

[6:59] About Jennifer’s career in risk management and her current role as an Executive Director for Integrated Risk and Strategy.

[7:16] Jennifer speaks on the value of RIMS conferences.

[7:47] The sessions that Jennifer is most excited about at the RIMS ERM Conference 2022.

[8:22] Justin thanks Jennifer for joining RIMScast.

[8:30] Justin welcomes Mark Pfister to the podcast.

[9:17] Mark’s keynote speech focused on amorphic strategy. Mark explains what it is and why he believes we’re in the amorphic era.

[10:00] Mark explains the equation: Values = Culture = Organizational Risk.

[10:45] Mark’s experience interacting with attendees at the conference.

[11:40] Justin gives a special thanks to his guests for joining the podcast and shares some links to check in today’s show notes!


Mentioned in this Episode:

RISKWORLD 2023 — April 30‒May 3 in Atlanta, Georgia! Member registration is now open!

RIMS Risk Maturity Model

RIMS Professional Report: “Navigating the Complexities of Emerging Risks”

RIMS Events, Education, and Services:

RIMS Events App Apple | Google Play


RIMS Buyers Guide

Contribute to RIMS Risk Management magazine

Dan Kugler Risk Manager on Campus Grant

Sponsor RIMScast: Contact or for more information.

Upcoming Webinars:

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“Royal Caribbean Group Creatively Uses RMIS to Boost Wellness” | Sponsored by Riskonnect | Dec. 13, 2022

Virtual Workshops:

“Leveraging Data and Analytics for Continuous Risk Management” | Dec. 1 | 10:00 am‒
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“Applying and Integrating ERM” — Dec 6‒7 | 9:00 am‒3:00 pm EST | Registration Closes Dec. 5th — Register Now!

“Contractual Risk Transfer” — Dec 7‒8 | 9:30 am‒3:30 pm EST | Registration Closes Dec. 6th — Register Now!

See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops

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“The Power of Storytelling in ERM with Dr. Karen Hardy” (2022)

“Emerging Risks and Board Reporting with Suzanna Christensen” (2022)

“ERM, ESG, and More Acronyms with Jana Utter” (2022)

“ERM at the Veterans Benefits Administration with Charles Tapp” (2022)

“ERM and Employment Trends with Terry Lampropoulos” (2022)

“Rethinking the Impact of Disruption on ERM Tools and Processes with Ward Ching and Dr. Paul Walker”

“Responsible Raw Materials, Mining, and ESG with Sarah Gordon of Satarla”

“Path to the Boardroom: Resolver CEO Will Anderson’s Journey”

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RIMS Publications, Content, and Links:

RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community!

RIMS Virtual Workshops

Upcoming RIMS — Virtual WorkshopsIMS Webinars

On-Demand Webinars

RIMS Advisory Services — Ask a Peer

Risk Management Magazine

Risk Management Monitor

RIMS Risk Leaders Series

RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP)

RIMS-CRMP Stories — New interview featuring RIMS-CRMP Chairman Ward Ching!

Spencer Educational Foundation

RIMS DEI Council

RIMS Path to the Boardroom


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Tweetables (For Social Media Use):


“What I love about ERM is [the] people. [For example], getting to understand what’s really driving their concerns … and … the opportunities that are hidden behind … our expertise that we can uncover by genuine and authentic conversation.” — Merline Barrington


“I continue to find value in the opportunities to connect with other risk practitioners and occasionally get together in person and really talk about some of the challenges that we all face.” — Jennifer Brown


“Strategies typically are working through and understanding and planning for both positive and negative risk — and we have to look at both of those aspects.” — Mark Pfister