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Oct 18, 2022

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.


In keeping with the tradition of having keynotes and panelists join the podcast that will be at the RIMS ERM Conference 2022, Justin Smulison is joined by risk professional and filmmaker, Dr. Karen Hardy!


Dr. Karen Hardy is a strategic advisor and founder of the Flip this Risk® book series, podcast, and academy and the Chief Risk Officer and Principal Consultant at Strategic Leadership Advisors LLC. She is also the producer of the Emmy Award-winning 2018 documentary, A New Leash On Life: The K9s for Warriors Story. 


In this conversation, Dr. Hardy discusses her career in ERM, the valuable lessons she has learned, and practical advice for other risk professionals. She also tells about her Nov. 10th general session at the conference titled, “The Power of Storytelling.”


Key Takeaways:

[:01] About the RIMS Membership.

[:14] About today’s episode and how to save $400 on the Pre-Conference Workshop for RIMS-CRMP Prep!

[:41] About RIMScast.

[:55] About today’s episode with Karen Hardy!

[1:21] All about the RIMS ERM Conference 2022 and how to take advantage of the special advance group rate.

[2:19] Upcoming RIMS webinars, workshops, events, and more!

[3:20] More about today’s episode with Dr. Karen Hardy.

[3:52] Justin welcomes Dr. Karen Hardy back to RIMScast!

[4:11] Dr. Karen Hardy shares what she has been up to since she was last on RIMScast.

[5:14] What it was like for Dr. Hardy to be at the ground level for the launch of the RIMS-CRMP-FED.

[6:23] About Dr. Hardy’s work in film.

[7:34] What Dr. Hardy’s award-winning documentary is about and where you can watch it.

[8:54] What draws Dr. Hardy to ERM in 2022 and why she feels it’s important for risk professionals and organizations, especially at a time like this.

[10:43] On a practical level, is there a threshold for the number of objections that one should listen to before writing someone off as a naysayer?

[12:21] How have ERM professionals risen to the occasion since the start of the pandemic?

[13:25] What can ERM professionals do to strengthen their contributions?

[14:09] Dr. Hardy gives a preview of her general session, “The Power of Storytelling” at the upcoming RIMS ERM Conference 2022.

[16:00] RIMS plug time! All about upcoming awards and nominations, virtual workshops, and more!

[17:43] About Dr. Karen Hardy’s very own podcast, Flip this Risk®, and what initially inspired her to launch it!

[19:44] Has hosting her own podcast helped her become a better presenter?

[20:39] What are some of the basics that you need before starting a podcast?

[21:58] About Dr. Hardy’s book, Flip this Risk® for Enterprise Security, which was a spin-off of her podcast.

[23:27] What Dr. Hardy is excited about at the fast-approaching RIMS ERM Conference 2022.

[24:29] Justin thanks Dr. Karen Hardy for joining the podcast and shares some of the links to check in today’s show notes!


Mentioned in this Episode:

RIMS Events, Education, and Services:

Save $400 on the Pre-Conference Workshop: RIMS-CRMP Prep

Attend the in-person RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep Workshop, November 89. Register for the ERM Conference and select the workshop on the “Additional Purchase Options” page. Your $400 savings will already be applied. Learn more!

The RIMS Strategic & Enterprise Risk Center

RIMS Risk Maturity Model


In-Person Events:

RIMS Events App Apple | Google Play


RIMS Buyers Guide

Contribute to RIMS Risk Management magazine

Dan Kugler Risk Manager on Campus Grant

Sponsor RIMScast: Contact or for more information.

Virtual Workshops:

Managing Worker Compensation, Employer’s Liability and Employment Practices in the US — Nov. 15‒16 | 12:00 pm‒7:30 pm EST | Registration closes Nov. 14 — Enroll Today!

Applying and Integrating ERM — Dec 6‒7 | 9:00 am‒3:00 pm EST Registration Closes Dec 5th — Register Now!

See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops

Upcoming RIMS Webinars:

“From Chaos to Clarity: GRC Trends for 2023” | Sponsored by Resolver | Oct. 20, 2022

Related RIMScast Episodes:

“Strategizing with Mark A. Pfister, RIMS ERM Conference Keynote 2022”

“ERM, ESG, and More Acronyms with Jana Utter”

“ERM and Employment Trends with Terry Lampropoulos”

“Rethinking the Impact of Disruption on ERM Tools and Processes with Ward Ching and Dr. Paul Walker”

“Responsible Raw Materials, Mining, and ESG with Sarah Gordon of Satarla”

”Path to the Boardroom: Resolver CEO Will Anderson’s Journey”

“ESG and the Board with Luke Jacobs of Encamp”

Sponsored RIMScast Episodes:

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“RIMScast: Aon’s 2021 Retail Industry Overview” | Sponsored by Aon

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“The Golden Era of Insurance” | Sponsored by The Hartford

“Insurance Investigation Trends Happening Now” | Sponsored by Travelers

“What Could a CRO Do for Your Business?” | Sponsored by Riskonnect

“Hard Reality: A Look at Rising Rates in Property & Excess Casualty” | Sponsored by AXA XL

“Property Valuation Deep Dive” | Sponsored by TÜV SÜD

“Property Loss Control Engineering” | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers

RIMS Publications, Content, and Links:

RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community!

RIMS Virtual Workshops

Upcoming RIMS Webinars

On-Demand Webinars

RIMS Advisory Services — Ask a Peer

Risk Management Magazine

Risk Management Monitor

RIMS Coronavirus Information Center

RIMS Risk Leaders Series

RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP)

RIMS-CRMP Stories — New interview featuring RIMS-CRMP Chairman Ward Ching!

Spencer Educational Foundation

RIMS DEI Council

RIMS Path to the Boardroom

More With Dr. Karen Hardy

Flip This Risk® Podcast

A New Leash On Life: The K9s for Warriors Story (Film, 2018)

Flip this Risk® for Enterprise Security: Industry Experts Share Their Insights About Enterprise Security Risk Management Risks for Organizations, by Dr. Karen Hardy


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Tweetables (For Social Media Use):


“It’s not often that you have someone who’s a risk professional in film. But, it really leverages out because it’s all focusing on the same subject it’s about managing risk.” Dr. Karen Hardy


“The thing that draws me to ERM in 2022 is the thing that drew me to it years ago. … And the very thing is that at the core, it … is about bringing everyone together … to have … conversations within an organization. That’s the foundation for … change.” — Dr. Karen Hardy


“One of the things that I realized in the [ERM] profession is that I can’t craft or create a solution if I don’t know what the objections are. And that’s why having conversations is so important. Objections are a gift to any risk profession.” Dr. Karen Hardy


“My whole reputation in government and risk management changed because I was able to put a creative spin on risk management.” Dr. Karen Hardy