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Oct 22, 2019

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.


Today’s topic is cyber, in honor of National Cyber Security Awareness Month! This episode was produced Oct. 8th, 2019, at the Nasdaq site in Time Square at a summit hosted by the National Cyber Security Alliance and Nasdaq, titled, “The State of Cybersecurity: Securing Continuous Connections.”


In this episode, your host, Justin Smulison, got the chance to catch up with some of the fantastic speakers from this event and get some more of their thoughts on the topics of cyber and 5G technology. The first guest is Jason Ruger, Chief Information Security Officer at Lenovo. He led an in-depth session on 5G and then provided some more of his thoughts on today’s show. Next up is Ruby Zefo, Chief Privacy Officer for Uber. Ruby is also a board member of the National Cyber Security Alliance (NCSA) and was a panelist during one of the morning media briefings exploring the topic of privacy. Last but not least on the podcast is Chris Novak, Global Director of Verizon’s Threat Research Advisory Center. Chris was also a panelist on another media briefing about 5G and the state of cyber. Justin and Chris talk a bit about disruption and he also provided an industry outlook.


Key Takeaways:

[:14] About today’s episode.

[:24] About some of the fantastic upcoming RIMS events!

[1:01] More details about today’s episode!

[1:26] About today’s first guest, Jason Ruger.

[1:42] Justin welcomes Jason to the podcast!

[1:47] What do risk leaders need to know about cybersecurity when adopting 5G technology?

[2:27] Is there such a thing as too much too soon when adopting new 5G technology?

[3:30] Jason explains why he refers to distance as a dichotomy when referring to 5G.

[4:22] Jason highlights some of the emerging risks from 5G that risk leaders should know about.

[5:00] Does Jason work with a large risk management team? What are his responsibilities?

[6:30] About this episode’s next guest, Ruby Zefo!

[6:45] Ruby speaks about geolocation data and the grey area of when it becomes personally identifiable information. When does she think the public can begin to demand that it not be used?

[7:50] When consumers change their minds, how does that affect contextualization? And how can risk managers and privacy officers advise leadership on these changes in the market?

[4:48] Does Ruby have a risk management team that she works with?

[9:30] How can privacy officers possibly be the ethical or moral authority in a company when it comes to determining what the proper use of technology is?

[10:30] About today’s final guest, Chris Novak!

[10:46] Chris speaks about what he does at Verizon.

[11:03] In Chris’s opinion, how much of a disruptor will 5G be for the greater business community?

[12:40] Are there any challenges Chris is looking out for in regards to 5G?

[14:09] How does Chris work with his risk management team?

[15:40] Does Chris have an ERM department? What’s the relationship like there?

[16:11] Chris elaborates on his concerns about a possible cybersecurity expert shortage in the workforce.

[18:28] Somebody on the panel said that the credentials of experts need to be both in engineering and legal/policy. Is that really a pragmatic requirement?

[20:12] Justin gives his thanks to the many guests of this episode and highlights some of the important links for this week’s episode.


Mentioned in this Episode:

Register here for the RIMS ERM Conference 2019 and enter code ANDERSON2019 to receive 10% off! (Nov. 4th–5th in New Orleans, LA)

RIMS Risk Forum India 2019 (Nov. 22nd in Mumbai, India)
RIMS RiskTech Forum 2019 (Dec. 9th in New York City)

Upcoming RIMS Events

RM Magazine

Risk Management Monitor

RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP)

RIMS Membership — Discover why 10,000 of your peers from more than 60 countries are a part of the RIMS community!

National Cyber Security Alliance (NCSA)
National Cyber Security Awareness Month (October 2019)

RIMScast Episode: “The World of Cybersecurity with NCSA Executive Director Kelvin Coleman”

Q&A With New National Cyber Security Alliance Executive Director Kelvin Coleman,” on Risk Management Monitor

“NCSA and NASDAQ Advise Risk Managers to Look ‘Beyond IT’ Following a Breach,” on Risk Management Monitor

The State of Cybersecurity: Securing Continuous Connections (A NCSA and Nasdaq Cybersecurity Summit)


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Jason Ruger’s LinkedIn

Ruby Zefo’s LinkedIn

Chris Novak’s LinkedIn