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Sep 28, 2021

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.


This week on RIMScast, Justin Smulison is addressing two hot topics with two fantastic guests! The first being the RIMS Canada Conference (held Oct. 5th‒6th, 2021) with Jacqueline Toering and then “your path to the boardroom” with Craig Rowe of ClearRisk.


Jacqueline Toering is a RIMS Canada Council Executive Member, Chair of the RCC Sub Committee and National Conference Committee, and the Director of Risk and Safety at the University of the Fraser Valley. In her conversation with Justin, she speaks about all of the great things happening with (and around) the RIMS Canada Conference 2021, her experience in planning and coordinating a virtual conference, and her insights on this year’s theme of “Revision.”


In the second half of the episode, Justin speaks with Craig Rowe. Craig is the President, CEO, and Co-founder of ClearRisk Inc. He originally founded ClearRisk in 2006 after 15 years in the risk and insurance business, in order to create modern software solutions for medium to large organizations. Craig also actively works as a mentor and advisor with tech startups and entrepreneurs and is the Chair of techNL.


In his conversation with Justin, they speak about Craig’s experiences in the boardroom, his insights for risk professionals who want to establish a presence among their boards, and actionable advice for risk professionals. This conversation also doubles as a preview for Craig’s upcoming Path to the Boardroom webinar session called, “Board Dynamics: Confidence, Communication, and Clarity,” that he will moderate on October 13th, 2021! Listen in to hear all of Craig’s invaluable insights for risk professionals of all levels of experience.


Key Takeaways:

[:01] About RIMS’ Global Membership.

[:25] About today’s episode with Jacqueline Toering and Craig Rowe.

[:45] Upcoming RIMS current virtual offerings.

[1:53] More about today’s episode.

[2:33] Justin welcomes Jacqueline Toering back to RIMScast!

[2:48] Jacqueline highlights the sessions and features that she is excited about at the 2021 RIMS Canada Conference.

[3:35] Discussing the power of a live performance (over a pre-recorded one).

[4:28] What the theme of “Revision” means to Jacqueline.

[5:05] Jacqueline’s experience in planning and coordinating a virtual RIMS Canada Conference.

[5:47] Looking ahead, does Jacqueline predict that future RIMS Canada Conference will be able to resume their in-person events?

[6:55] Where to find the 2021 RIMS Canada Conference schedule and register online!

[7:14] Jacqueline shares her parting message with listeners!

[7:24] RIMS plug time! All about the RIMS Mobile App, RIMS Buyers Guide.

[8:25] About today’s next guest, Craig Rowe!

[9:01] Justin welcomes Craig to the podcast!

[9:06] Craig shares about his career and his time on boards.

[9:45] How risk and boardroom experience interconnect for Craig.

[12:03] Would Craig recommend getting on nonprofit boards?

[13:17] How risk professionals can get on the radar of their boards.

[15:48] Craig’s advice to risk professionals who want to rise in the organization quickly.

[17:07] When Craig first became a risk professional, did he realize he had always been wearing a risk hat?

[18:56] On October 13th, 2021, Craig will lead the RIMS webinar, “Board Dynamics: Confidence, Communication, and Clarity.” Craig shares his excitement and what to look forward to with this webinar.

[20:40] Where, when, and how to find the webinar.

[20:50] Craig shares some parting thoughts for the global risk management community as well as a teaser for his upcoming webinar.

[23:37] Justin thanks Jacqueline Toering and Craig Rowe for joining RIMScast and shares some of the links to look out for in this episode’s show notes!


Mentioned in this Episode:

RIMS Events, Education, and Services:

RIMS Canada Conference 2021: Last call! Register now!

RIMS ERM Conference 2021 will be held Nov. 11th & 12th in NYC

RIMS Path To The Boardroom – Visit for past webinar presentations and interviews!


RIMS Buyers Guide

Upcoming Webinars:

September 30, 2021 | “Prepare to Plug into a High-Powered Opportunity” | Sponsored by Travelers

October 7, 2021 | “Surety Bonds: Understanding the Benefits” | Sponsored by Travelers

October 13, 2021 | “Board Dynamics: Confidence, Communication and Clarity” | Presented by RIMS Path To The Boardroom

Sponsored RIMScast Episodes:

“What Could a CRO Do for Your Business?” | Sponsored by Riskonnect

“Hard Reality: A Look at Rising Rates in Property & Excess Casualty” | Sponsored by AXA XL

“Property Valuation Deep Dive” | Sponsored by TÜV SÜD

“Property Loss Control Engineering” | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers

Virtual Workshops:

RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep Virtual Workshops (October 2021) — Gain an edge with the RIMS-CRMP; the only internationally accredited risk management certification!

RIMS Virtual Workshops: Claims Management — Register now for Nov. 8‒9th

Spencer’s Risk Manager on Campus Program — Volunteer Today!

Related RIMScast Episodes:

“RIMS Canada 2021 Keynote Séan McCann Unravels The ‘Why’”

“Talking RIMS Canada and Risk Management with Steve Pottle and Jacqueline Toering”

“Your LinkedIn Profile and the Path to the Boardroom”

“Risk Quantification and Constructive Criticism with James Lam”

“Craig Rowe, ICD.D: Clear Communication with the Board”

RIMS Publications, Content, and Links:

RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community!

RIMS Virtual Workshops

Upcoming RIMS Webinars

On-Demand Webinars

RIMS Advisory Services — Ask a Peer

Risk Management Magazine

Risk Management Monitor

RIMS Coronavirus Information Center

RIMS Risk Leaders Series — New interview with RIMS 2021 Risk Manager of the Year, Michael Harrington!

RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP)

RIMS-CRMP Stories — New interview featuring Steve Pottle!

Spencer Educational Foundation

RIMS Advocacy


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Follow up with Our Guests:

Jacqueline Toering’s LinkedIn

Craig Rowe’s LinkedIn


Tweetables (For Social Media Use):


“I think [your path to the boardroom] is something that risk managers should be talking about and thinking about because, unless you’re relevant in the boardroom, then you’re not really doing everything you can for your organization.” — Craig Rowe


“I encourage young people all the time … [to] get on boards. If you want to build your career, build your network, [and] build your experience much, much more quickly … get on boards.” — Craig Rowe


“The better job we do of managing risk, the better the organizations that we work for are. We make companies more successful. I think we can’t lose sight of the impact that risk management has on organizations.” — Craig Rowe


“Risk management for any organization — for profit or not — is about maximizing the upside of risk and minimizing the downside of risk. … You want to be able to make good decisions that result in better outcomes.” — Craig Rowe


“If you want to rise in your organization quickly, don’t wait for someone to ask you for a report. Create it for them. Anticipate what they need and … deliver it to them in meaningful ways.” — Craig Rowe