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Dec 11, 2018

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Writer at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.


Today’s episode is a great one! Justin is talking climate risk with a fantastic guest — author Jeff Nesbit. His new book, This Is the Way the World Ends: How Droughts and Die-offs, Heat Waves and Hurricanes Are Converging on America, discusses climate challenges as they exist today and what we can do as a society to combat it. Aside from writing, Jeff is also currently serving as the Executive Director of Climate Nexus and contributing as an opinion writer at the New York Times, Time, U.S. News & World Report and other publications.


Some of the key topics Justin and Jeff discussed today were: the implications behind influential world leaders dismissing climate change, how governments and businesses can combat climate risk, his impressions of this year’s National Climate Assessment, and his recommendations to what risk managers should be looking into now.


Key Takeaways:

[:14] About today’s show.

[:42] About RIMS upcoming 2019 annual conference.

[1:16] About today’s guest and topics of discussion.

[1:57] Justin welcomes Jeff to the podcast.

[2:05] How other businesses can learn from Nestlé’s approach in incorporating climate risk into their strategic risk management processes, and what they’re doing that really sets them apart.

[6:26] Jeff’s recommendations on how governments and businesses can combat climate risk.

[11:34] Does Jeff agree with the notion that once information is available, the only way to institute change is to inspire the will to improve things?

[14:50] Is one of the biggest hurdles that there are influential world leaders who try to dismiss climate change (and therefore do not see the need for governments and businesses to build it into their strategies)?

[17:57] Ideas from CEOs that stand out to Jeff that other risk managers could learn from.

[21:20] How these recent 1-in-a-1,000-year hurricanes and storms in the United States might change preparedness plans and resiliency efforts among company leaders.

[26:28] Jeff’s impression of the National Climate Assessment and details he thinks should be on risk managers’ collective radar.

[28:34] Jeff speaks about Anupam Mishra‘s legacy and vision.

[31:30] Justin thanks Jeff for joining RIMScast.

[32:00] Remember to check out Risk Management Monitor, RM Magazine, and email Justin at if you have any suggestions for topics to be discussed in upcoming shows!


Mentioned in this Episode:

This Is the Way the World Ends: How Droughts and Die-offs, Heat Waves and Hurricanes Are Converging on America, by Jeff Nesbit

RIMS Annual Conference 2019 Registration

“Nestlé seen as ‘global leader’ in tackling climate change” (article for further reading)

RIMS Risk Forum (2018) in Mumbai, India

Previous episode of RIMScast: Speaking with Leaders in Risk Management at the RIMS Risk Forum India 2018

National Climate Assessment

Anupam Mishra

Anupam Mishra’s TED Talk (video)

RM Magazine

"Impact of Climate Disasters Surges"  (RM Magazine Article)

Risk Management Monitor


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