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Jan 18, 2022

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.


January is National Human Trafficking Prevention Month, the month dedicated to raising awareness about human trafficking, educating the public on how to identify and prevent this crime, and celebrating the efforts of organizations, governments, law enforcement, and advocates that are making an effort to raise awareness.


In this episode, Justin Smulison is joined by author and human trafficking expert, Kimberly Mehlman-Orozco, to shine a light on this global problem and share her insights on what risk professionals can do to identify and help victims of trafficking.


Dr. Kimberly Mehlman-Orozco is an accomplished survey methodologist, research scientist, and quantitative and qualitative consultant on issues related to human trafficking. She is also the CEO of Break the Chain, the Executive Director of Freedom Light, and the author of Hidden in Plain Sight: America's Slaves of the New Millennium, and was recently a guest speaker at RIMS Live 2021!


Kimberly shares how risk professionals can ensure their organizations know how to train their employees to spot the signs and properly report human trafficking, how the current remote-fueled world impacts modern slavery, the industries that are the highest risk for trafficking, and her insights on what we can all do to address this issue as a collective.


Key Takeaways:

[:01] Do you want to reach risk professionals around the world? Here’s how to sponsor RIMScast.

[:24] About RIMS’ Global Membership and RIMScast.

[:36] About today’s episode.

[:47] Upcoming RIMS current offerings.

[1:35] About the upcoming two-day virtual event: 2022 RIMS RiskTech Forum.

[2:12] More about today’s episode with Kimberly Mehlman-Orozco.

[3:05] Justin welcomes Kimberly Mehlman-Orozco to RIMScast!

[3:21] Kimberly shares about her past appearances at RIMS events and her career background.

[5:28] About Kimberly’s book, Hidden in Plain Sight: America's Slaves of the New Millennium, and how it is used to train law enforcement.

[7:06] How does the current remote-fueled world impact modern slavery and human trafficking?

[10:17] How and why the detection training needs to change with an increasingly virtual world.

[11:09] Why trafficking is extremely hard to identify and what we can all do to identify it and address it together.

[13:44] Kimberly shares key takeaways from those who have unwittingly assisted or interacted with human traffickers.

[15:51] How Kimberly advises risk professionals and businesses (with training and reporting) regarding human trafficking.

[22:17] Upcoming RIMS webinars, the RIMS Buyers Guide, and the RIMS 2022 RISKWORLD.

[24:08] Why it is more challenging in the era of COVID-19 to help protect and identify victims of human trafficking and modern slavery, and Kimberly’s recommendations for businesses on preventative measures as well as what they can do if they encounter a situation.

[27:25] How does a high-profile case and verdict, such as the recent Ghislaine Maxwell sentencing, help shine a light on human trafficking during the National Human Trafficking Prevention Month?

[33:29] Tourism, travel, and hospitality are the major industries that may be susceptible to human trafficking. Outside of these, are there any other industries that are at high risk?

[37:22] Justin thanks Kimberly Mehlman-Orozco for joining RIMScast and shares some additional links to check out in this episode’s show notes.


Mentioned in this Episode:

RIMS Events, Education, and Services:

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More About Human Trafficking and Modern Slavery on RIMScast:

“Human Trafficking and Supply Chain Risk with Tim Nelson of the Slave-Free Alliance”

“Navigating Shipping Risks in 2022 with Capt. Rahul Khanna”

More RIMS Resources on Human Trafficking and Modern Slavery:

“Human Trafficking and Supply Chains: Q&A with Tim Nelson of the Slave-Free Alliance”

“Human Trafficking: How Businesses Can Combat the Modern Slavery Epidemic”

“Human Rights and Corporate Wrongs”

“The Expanding Circle of Concern and Emerging Risks”

RIMS Publications, Content, and Links:

RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community!

RIMS Virtual Workshops

Upcoming RIMS Webinars

On-Demand Webinars

RIMS Advisory Services — Ask a Peer

Risk Management Magazine

Risk Management Monitor

RIMS Coronavirus Information Center

RIMS Risk Leaders Series — New interview with RIMS 2021 Risk Manager of the Year Michael Harrington!

RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP)

RIMS-CRMP Stories — New interview featuring RIMS Treasurer Jennifer Santiago!

Spencer Educational Foundation

RIMS DEI Council

RIMS Path to the Boardroom

National Human Trafficking Prevention Month (U.S. Department of State)

Kimberly Mehlman-Orozco’s Website


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Follow up with Our Guest:

Kimberly Mehlman-Orozco’s Website

Hidden in Plain Sight: America's Slaves of the New Millennium, by Kimberly Mehlman-Orozco
Break the Chain

Freedom Light


Tweetables (For Social Media Use):


“The reality is, the average person is thinking of trafficking like something out of the movie, Taken, where you have a clearly innocent victim and these gun-wielding mobsters. … In reality, trafficking is really [not that clear].” — Kimberly Mehlman-Orozco


“I really think that … instead of pointing fingers and putting the blame on various parties, it’s a collaborative effort. We actually do need to learn a lot more on how to … combat this issue [of human trafficking].” Kimberly Mehlman-Orozco


“I want to help organizations and businesses protect victims of trafficking and prevent these crimes from happening … and facilitate the prosecution of offenders. Those are the goals of the TVPRA [Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act].” — Kimberly Mehlman-Orozco


“It’s really important to continually educate, evaluate, [and ask], ‘Are my employees retaining this information?’ … When you do see something, and … report it to law enforcement, keep a log of the efforts … to ensure that … your premises are safe.” — Kimberly Mehlman-Orozco