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May 10, 2022

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.


This week, Justin Smulison is joined by 2022 Harry and Dorothy Goodell Award winner, Lance Ewing!


Lance is one of the most visible and vocal risk management advocates. He is the previous RIMS President from 2003 to 2004, was Risk Manager of the Year in 2007, and was the Risk Innovator of the Year in 2008. Currently, he is the Vice President of Enterprise Risk Management and Operations for the San Manuel Band of Mission Indians; a federally recognized tribe of Serrano people in San Bernardino County, California.


In this conversation, Lance Ewing shares about his illustrious career in risk management; the qualities he seeks when building and hiring his risk department; how he feels receiving the Harry and Dorothy Goodell Award, and all about his current team and work at the San Manuel Band of Mission Indians.


Key Takeaways:

[:01] About the RIMS Membership.

[:15] About RIMScast.

[:29] About today’s episode with Lance Ewing.

[:35] Upcoming RIMS webinars and workshops.

[1:36] More about today’s episode.

[2:46] Justin welcomes Lance Ewing to RIMScast.

[3:43] Lance speaks about his experience of being named the 2022 Goodell award winner.

[4:30] About Lance’s history as the former RIMS President, Risk Manager of the Year, and Risk Innovator of the Year.

[5:06] Lance gives his thanks in regards to being named the 2022 Goodell award winner.

[7:11] Lance shares about his incredible staff and his work at the San Manuel Band of Mission Indians.

[8:00] How big the risk group is that Lance is working with right now, his philosophy on risk, and job opportunities at his organization.

[9:19] Lance shares his experiences working in the gaming and entertainment sector of risk management and what he loves about it.

[13:53] Lance reflects on his RIMS presidency from 2003 to 2004.

[17:40] RIMS plug time! All about the RIMS Legislative Summit 2022, RIMS Buyers Guide, and the RIMS App with Morgan O’ Rourke.

[20:13] The Legislative Summit returns on September 20th, 2022! Lance highlights the significance of this year’s summit.

[21:57] Is Lance going to be attending the Legislative Summit this year?

[23:12] Lance speaks about his experience chairing the first Legislative Summit.
[25:40] Having taken a lot of folks under his wings over the years, what does Lance look for in a risk management professional job applicant?

[28:46] is their team currently remote, on-site, or flexible?

[30:14] Did Lance find it more difficult to follow up with potential applicants remotely?

[31:45] The process of building an ERM program and how ERM has evolved over the decades.

[35:48] What Lance would like to see happen to the risk management profession in the next 20 years.

[37:59] Lance’s outlook on the next wave of risk professionals.

[41:11] Justin thanks Lance Ewing for joining the podcast and shares some of the links to check in today’s show notes.


Mentioned in this Episode:

RIMS Events, Education, and Services:


RIMS Advocacy — Legislative Summit Returns on September 20th!

RIMS Buyers Guide

Risk Management Magazine: Awards Edition 2022

RISKWORLD registrants can still access educational sessions on-demand through the RISKWORLD app and through desktop here.

Sponsor RIMScast: Contact or for more information.

Virtual Workshops:

“Contractual Risk Transfer Canada” — May 18‒19th

“Fundamentals of Risk Management” — May 24‒25th


May 10, 2022 | “Administrator to Advisor: How to Build a Risk Function that Generates Broad Value” | Sponsored by Riskonnect

May 19, 2022 | “How Successful Security Teams Manage Risk to Build Trust and Drive Growth” | Sponsored by OneTrust

June 2, 2022 | “Cyber, and Data, and Regulatory Risks (to Avoid)—Oh My!” | Sponsored by Beazley

Sponsored RIMScast Episodes:

NEW: Keeping Subcontractors Safe Through Partner Elevation” | Sponsored by Highwire

“ESG: A Responsibility and a Growing Megatrend” | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers Ltd.

“Focusing on Your Team to Deliver Exceptional Quality and Service to Your Clients”

| Sponsored by Gallagher Bassett

“Bermuda Opportunities in 2022 with BDA Chair Stephen Weinstein” | Sponsored by Bermuda Business Development Agency

“SyncR: A Tool to Enhance Your Risk Quality & Insurance Strategy” | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers Ltd.

“Navigating the Risk Landscape in 2022” | Sponsored by AXA XL

“Prioritizing People: Expertise and Innovation” | Sponsored by Gallagher Bassett

“Risk Findings for the Industrial & Manufacturing Industry” | Sponsored by Aon

“Establishing the Right Assurance to Request From Business Partners” | Sponsored by HITRUST

“Aon’s 2021 Retail Industry Overview” | Sponsored by Aon

“A Legacy of Resilience” | Sponsored by J.B. Boda Group

“The Golden Era of Insurance” | Sponsored by The Hartford

“Insurance Investigation Trends Happening Now” | Sponsored by Travelers

“What Could a CRO Do for Your Business?” | Sponsored by Riskonnect

“Hard Reality: A Look at Rising Rates in Property & Excess Casualty” | Sponsored by AXA XL

“Property Valuation Deep Dive” | Sponsored by TÜV SÜD

“Property Loss Control Engineering” | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers

NEW RIMSCAST VIDEO: “Climate Change and Insurance: A Fireside Chat with Dev Bhutani and Deepak Madan” | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers Ltd.

Related RIMScast Episodes:

“From the Office of ‘KNOW’: 2022 Risk Manager of the Year Courtney Davis Curtis”

“Live from RISKWORLD 2022”

“Betting It All On Risk: Mark Habersack, Heart of RIMS Award Recipient 2021”

“RIMS 2021 Risk Manager of the Year: Michael Harrington”

“RIMS 2021 Award Winners: Elliott Long and Sue Mepham”

“Making the Grade: Cheryl Lloyd, 2021 Risk Manager of the Year Honor Roll Inductee”

“Risk Management in Higher Education with RIMS 2019 Risk Manager of the Year, Luke Figora”

“Transformative ERM Programs with 2018 Risk Manager of the Year, Rebecca Cady”

“RIMS 2020 Award Winners: Mark Humphreys and Katherine Dawal”

“RIMS 2020 Award Winners: Audrey Rampinelli and Larry Glasser”

RIMS Publications, Content, and Links:

RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community!

RIMS Virtual Workshops

Upcoming RIMS Webinars

On-Demand Webinars

RIMS Advisory Services — Ask a Peer

Risk Management Magazine

Risk Management Monitor

RIMS Coronavirus Information Center

RIMS Risk Leaders Series

RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP)

RIMS-CRMP Stories — New interview featuring RIMS Treasurer Jennifer Santiago!

Spencer Educational Foundation

RIMS DEI Council

RIMS Path to the Boardroom


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Tweetables (For Social Media Use):


“The thing I can tell you … about the Goodell Award that RIMS just recently bestowed on me … is [that] it’s the pinnacle of your career, if you will, to receive that award. And to have Mary Roth … present that award to me was just overwhelmingly heartfelt.” — Lance Ewing


“I have an amazing staff. … I couldn’t have received the Goodell award without my staff. They do such a phenomenal job in backing me up and, quite frankly, keeping the engines running.” — Lance Ewing


“My philosophy has always been, from a risk standpoint, the more safety, loss prevention, [and] risk control you have, the fewer claims you’re going to have.” — Lance Ewing


“I’m looking for competency … but I’m looking more for chemistry [when reviewing risk management professional job applicants.] Are you going to fit with the team? .. There’s go to be a competency and a chemistry [but] I think chemistry is most important.” — Lance Ewing