Dec 20, 2022
Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.
Everyone’s security is at risk when they travel — even when it’s for business. Today’s guest, Kelly Johnstone, has decades of risk experience, stemming from several years as a Federal Agent as well as the Chief Security Officer for a major global company. Now, with International SOS, Kelly helps keep business leaders safe when traveling to high-risk areas.
In this episode, Kelly discusses security measures organizations can take to protect employees and how they can be embedded into their ERM programs.
[:01] About the RIMS Membership.
[:14] Registration for RISKWORLD 2023 is now open!
[:33] About RIMScast.
[:46] About today’s episode.
[:58] All about upcoming RIMS webinars, workshops, events, and more!
[2:00] More about today’s episode with Kelly Johnstone.
[2:33] Justin welcomes Kelly to the podcast!
[2:48] Kelly shares about her career background and current role as a Risk Advisor at International SOS.
[5:10] Kelly elaborates on what it takes to institute a risk management framework regarding travel today.
[11:08] Is there a level of protection for the officers, decision-makers, and business leaders at International SOS as they travel?
[15:04] RIMS Plug time! All about upcoming workshops and webinars.
[15:50] Elise Farnham joins RIMScast to discuss her two upcoming RIMS virtual workshops!
[18:58] Be sure to check out the 2022 year-end issue of the Risk Management Magazine!
[19:46] How challenging is it to get buy-in from multiple departments regarding security risk?
[22:16] How Kelly is able to tie security risk to revenue generation or retention.
[23:55] How the practice of ERM could evolve to adapt to our current (COVID-19) climate.
[25:37] What are we overlooking in terms of risk? Where does ERM need to shift?
[28:00] Kelly discusses talent supply risks and shares her insights.
[29:22] What happens when there has to be an extraction? Kelly shares her advice.
[32:40] Kelly’s experience coming up in the field of security as a woman and her advice to other women considering a career in security.
[38:16] How did Kelly find her mentors?
[39:45] Has Kelly always been a natural speaker? How did she become a better speaker?
[40:48] Justin thanks Kelly for joining the podcast and shares some links to check in today’s show notes.
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“Risk has become … something that everybody understands. Before, it was this fuzzy thing, ‘Security just got in the way,’ ‘Oh, here she comes again.’ I think you have to learn how to talk to people about security so that … it’s business-enabling.” — Kelly Johnstone
“If you really think about it … almost everything comes back to a financial impact. So, if you’re not thinking about that as important as everything else you’re talking about [when it comes to] risk … you’re missing the boat.” — Kelly Johnstone
“If you’re a business to make money, [financial risk is] what you need to be looking at as you talk about [all] risks.” — Kelly Johnstone
“Companies that start thinking differently are going to be ready for the next threat and I think that’s where ERM needs to shift.” — Kelly Johnstone
"[At] the Chief Security Officer level, it’s about 90% white men over 60. … We need more women. We need more people of color — we need more everything. Because this is a field where you need to be a critical thinker and your background [plays a part in that].” — Kelly Johnstone